Comments on: Witnessing Miracles http://www.bryanlilly.com/oldblog/index.php/2009/03/12/witnessing-miracles/ A look at theology and culture. A blog by Bryan Lilly. Mon, 28 Dec 2009 12:54:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: Dennis Hodulick http://www.bryanlilly.com/oldblog/index.php/2009/03/12/witnessing-miracles/comment-page-1/#comment-1443 Dennis Hodulick Mon, 16 Mar 2009 14:23:25 +0000 http://www.katagraphais.com/?p=1006#comment-1443 Re the "typical pastorate is 2 to 5 years or so" I think that trend has been reversed, at least in the churches I'm involved with. I'm in the LI NY area but I know many the the mid-west and northwest and they tend to stay much longer. I've read that a pastor doesn't really become effective until after 7 years. The joke when I started was keep your sermons on file (in a real box) and when you leave after three years you just recycle the material. The "truth" behind that joke is what (IMO) contributed to the weakness of the American church. Re the “typical pastorate is 2 to 5 years or so” I think that trend has been reversed, at least in the churches I’m involved with. I’m in the LI NY area but I know many the the mid-west and northwest and they tend to stay much longer. I’ve read that a pastor doesn’t really become effective until after 7 years.

The joke when I started was keep your sermons on file (in a real box) and when you leave after three years you just recycle the material. The “truth” behind that joke is what (IMO) contributed to the weakness of the American church.

]]> By: Bryan http://www.bryanlilly.com/oldblog/index.php/2009/03/12/witnessing-miracles/comment-page-1/#comment-1432 Bryan Sat, 14 Mar 2009 18:30:02 +0000 http://www.katagraphais.com/?p=1006#comment-1432 Dennis, First of all, praise God for such a long ministry with the same church. That's certainly something to be celebrated in the American church, where the typical pastorate is 2 to 5 years or so. Secondly, thank you for sharing your thoughts and experiences. Hearing the same sentiments "from the field" (so to speak) is a great encouragement to me! Dennis,

First of all, praise God for such a long ministry with the same church. That’s certainly something to be celebrated in the American church, where the typical pastorate is 2 to 5 years or so.

Secondly, thank you for sharing your thoughts and experiences. Hearing the same sentiments “from the field” (so to speak) is a great encouragement to me!

]]> By: Dennis Hodulick http://www.bryanlilly.com/oldblog/index.php/2009/03/12/witnessing-miracles/comment-page-1/#comment-1431 Dennis Hodulick Sat, 14 Mar 2009 17:45:32 +0000 http://www.katagraphais.com/?p=1006#comment-1431 I'm a pastor of 27 years in the church that I planted on Long Island, NY. I would be classified as at least a charismatic. (non-denominational) I appreciate your words and all my experience has brought me to much the same place you express here. I fondly look back on the many miracles of changed lives, however I am also disturbed these same seemingly "un-miracles". Peace... I’m a pastor of 27 years in the church that I planted on Long Island, NY.

I would be classified as at least a charismatic. (non-denominational)

I appreciate your words and all my experience has brought me to much the same place you express here.

I fondly look back on the many miracles of changed lives, however I am also disturbed these same seemingly “un-miracles”.

Peace…

]]> By: Chris N http://www.bryanlilly.com/oldblog/index.php/2009/03/12/witnessing-miracles/comment-page-1/#comment-1418 Chris N Fri, 13 Mar 2009 04:22:34 +0000 http://www.katagraphais.com/?p=1006#comment-1418 Good thoughts my friend - thanks for taking the time to explicate them..... love you bro. Good thoughts my friend – thanks for taking the time to explicate them….. love you bro.

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