There’s obviously places where you would say that I spiritualize the kingdom, and have other such disagrements, but here I’m just working with what Jesus is saying- in other words, though I believe this is tied in some way to the MK, I’m trying not to bring it out so much in what I’m saying.

I also thought you were spiritualizing the kingdom. But I believe it came with the coming of Jesus, but will never be fully realized until the MK.

To be honest, I’m a little confused about your comment- are you agreeing/disagreeing?

Euangelion – definitely good news- I agree. As I said, it wasn’t the death, burial, resurrection I believe he has in mind, but the reign of God.

I’m not sure what spiritualizing anything has to do with any of what I said? I’ve focused only on this one verse, and have taken it pretty literally- the kingdom had come, and it wasn’t what they thought it should look like. Anyone who believes in the “already/not yet” scheme can agree with this. In fact, most of the observations in these posts come from some professors at Southern, most are decided premill.

I’m sure the confusion is on my end, but it seems we are saying the same things?

As you know euangelion simply means “good news.” I don’t think Mark had the death, burial and resurrection in mind.

The Jews may have been off on some aspects of the Messiah but not altogether. I see no need to spiritualize what the Messiah will eventually do for the Jews.

I’m not a Darby/Scofield/Ryrie type dispensationalist. I’m more in line with Bock. I believe we have the now-not-yet aspect of the Kingdom.

With the coming marked the in-breaking of the Kingdom (Matt 12:28).